Yes, non sexual public nudity should be allowed in certain areas, now if there is a kids play ground near by than probably no nudity there,but walking trails and public parks, yes absolutely.
To my point as to complexity. I see nothing wrong with non-sexual public nudity in proximity of a playground or for that matter the children being textile free at that playground. An answer to this is so very nuanced. Is the playground in a park that this otherwise clothing optional? The best I can think of is that in several states, on equal protection grounds, it has been said that women may bare their chests in the same manner as men may. So, when is it appropriate for a man to be bare-chested in public? On a city sidewalk in downtown? What if he is jogging on a hot summer day during lunch - more appropriate? In a grocery store? In a concert/event venue? The same very subjective analysis seems to be necessary for total nudity.
In an ideal society, non-sexual nudity wouldn't be an issue. But like it's said, a perfect society requires perfect people, and I haven't met any of those yet. So for now, my opportunities to be nude are either in my house or at the nude resort to which I belong.
I voted for 'in designated parks and beaches'. The main reason is in respect for those who don't appreciate and know the value of social nudity in a non-sexual manner. I think it is more fair to have it posted that nudity may be allowed in a certain place. It also is for the protection of those of us who are nudists. If we are in an area that is designated for nude activities, hopefully there is a less chance of being harrassed by police and people who may object to nudity in public spaces.
As far as I can see any rules, laws or dogmas lead to one size fits all thinking which only makes more problems to solve because we are all different. I think we all need a big healthy dose of "if you are not harming, injuring or restricting the freedom of others who also live by these principles we should mind our own business and in shared spaces negotiate agreements amongst each other". Live and let live appears to have been replaced by fear of others unless they comply which requires rules, laws and dogma (e.g. nanny state government) to appear to be a good idea. It looks to me to be like the "which came first, the chicken or the egg" argument to which I ask what difference does it make? Why look for solutions to problems that don't exist? Better to solve the "why are people having problems coming to agreements" question?
In answer to the last question I feel media and advertising are in the business of inventing imaginary problems and could be the root cause of this type of dilemma. Out of created chaos comes manufactured order (and rules, law, dogma, etc.).
I recently attended a non-naturist festival based on ecstatic dance and yoga, and I was nude the whole time. It was wonderful although for 99 percent of the time, I was the only nude person there. I asked the organizers ahead of time, of course, and they were gracious enough to realize what “freedom of expression” really means. I’ve tried asking organizers of the regular ecstatic dances in my area if I could come and dance nude, and their answer is an emphatic no. This despite their rhetoric of providing a safe container where people can be themselves, have freedom of expression, and dance how they wish. Nudity should definitely be allowed at any event that claims to provide freedom of expression.
My favorite nude public event is the WNBRs up in Portland, OR. The way they are organized (multiple nude rides throughout the day) one can be nude in a civic environment for an entire day. There's nothing like it. There's no feeling like it.
P.S. If heaven ain't clothing optional, I ain't going! lol! (Can you imagine spending eternity in one of those flowing robes? Me neither!)
Ideally I would like to see a world where if you are ok being shirtless as a man or in a bikini as a woman, you could also be naked. That is a lot of places, including beaches, swimming pools, or even just stunning in the park or going for a walk or run. I wouldn't exoect more people to be naked than may be shirtless in the same situations, but it would mean nudity becomes common and unremarkable.
Getting there is going to be a gradual process, starting with specific areas, and expanding outwards, and regional variations.
It should be allowed anywhere except someone’s private property if they don’t want it. And there should be no lewd conduct if you are that horny go home or to a motel
it is indeed a crazy world. Nudity is dangerous, "open carry" is the norm. I say if you must hide something, hide your guns, not your boobs! And thats all I have to say about that. c/o Forrest Gump
Based on trends in various regions, the following public spaces are most likely to be approved for clothing-optional use by local governments:
Designated sections of remote or less-frequented beaches, especially those already with a history of unofficial naturist use
Isolated areas within large public parks, particularly those that can be clearly marked and separated from main pathways
Reserved swimming areas in lakes or rivers located away from high-traffic zones
Specific hot springs or natural bathing areas, especially those with historical naturist tradition
Private lands leased or sold to naturist organizations that can be rezoned for recreational use
Local governments typically prioritize several factors when considering such designations:
Sufficient physical separation from non-clothing-optional areas
Clear signage and boundary markers to prevent accidental encounters
Minimal visibility from public roadways or family-oriented recreational areas
Areas that don't receive heavy tourism from diverse cultural backgrounds
The likelihood of approval increases when naturist groups demonstrate responsible self-governance, establish clear codes of conduct, and participate actively in maintaining the cleanliness and security of the designated areas.
Urban spaces or areas near schools, playgrounds, or high-traffic commercial districts are extremely unlikely to be approved regardless of advocacy efforts.
People should be allowed to be nude on their property so long as there is minimal visibility from public roadways or family-oriented recreational areas.
No one has mentioned the public nudity standards set in the UK. I believe our best effort would be to mirror those standards. It allows nudity on your own property and anywhere in public where it wouldn't reasonably cause a nuisance.
Some public family parks are situated in areas where nudity offense would not be expected. Just as we want open access to public spaces where nudity would be tolerated, clothists should have public areas safe from exposure to unwelcome nudity. Those areas should be designated as well.
"Areas that don't receive heavy tourism from diverse cultural backgrounds"
This is so awful. Visiting a new country is such a great opportunity to experience different cultures. Trying to shield people from it feels so fake.
"People should be allowed to be nude on their property so long as there is minimal visibility from public roadways or family-oriented recreational areas."
I also dislike this very much. It implies that nude people are wrong and should be hidden away.
Tbh, I dislike several items in this comments because they share this idea that nudists should be hidden.
I agree with you—I don't like it either. I find it difficult for Americans to disassociate their perceptions of sexual and shame-based nudity from non-sexual social nudity. 50% of the US population still finds the female nipple to be offensive. I think if we can make public social nudity more commonplace, we might eventually get to a point where we are more like some European countries.
I am of the belief that people should be able to be nude at home, of course, designated parks, beaches and other private clubs or resorts that are nude-friendly. It’s so difficult to remove the stigma that nudists contend with even when discussing their lifestyle with textile folks. If someone answers the door naked in their own home , it should not be considered immoral or unlawful as it’s their private property. Clothing optional sections on beaches and parks away from children should be allowed for consenting adults and their families if they wish. So many bigger issues to worry about these days in our crazy world!
Simple nudity is inherently non-sexual and natural. There is zero reason for it to be banned anywhere. And I 100% disagree about children needing to be shielded from that. They are born nudists and have to be forced to wear clothes. There has never been a single child harmed in any way by the sight of another person without clothes. They are only harmed by the reaction of adults around them.
Spain too although some cities like Barcelona have opted out on the public streets. We were there in the past when it was still OK in Barcelona, interesting, everyone passing was rather non reactive. I went ahead and stripted off on our hotel roof.
I think it should be allowed in places where swimwear is the norm along with wooded camp grounds and hiking trails. Nudity in grocery stores and restaurants, for example; may be a little much. Let’s stick with common sense and not make enemies by pushing an agenda.
Yes, non sexual public nudity should be allowed in certain areas, now if there is a kids play ground near by than probably no nudity there,but walking trails and public parks, yes absolutely.
To my point as to complexity. I see nothing wrong with non-sexual public nudity in proximity of a playground or for that matter the children being textile free at that playground. An answer to this is so very nuanced. Is the playground in a park that this otherwise clothing optional? The best I can think of is that in several states, on equal protection grounds, it has been said that women may bare their chests in the same manner as men may. So, when is it appropriate for a man to be bare-chested in public? On a city sidewalk in downtown? What if he is jogging on a hot summer day during lunch - more appropriate? In a grocery store? In a concert/event venue? The same very subjective analysis seems to be necessary for total nudity.
This is such a complex question. Each person has a different view as to nudity and its appropriateness.
In an ideal society, non-sexual nudity wouldn't be an issue. But like it's said, a perfect society requires perfect people, and I haven't met any of those yet. So for now, my opportunities to be nude are either in my house or at the nude resort to which I belong.
I voted for 'in designated parks and beaches'. The main reason is in respect for those who don't appreciate and know the value of social nudity in a non-sexual manner. I think it is more fair to have it posted that nudity may be allowed in a certain place. It also is for the protection of those of us who are nudists. If we are in an area that is designated for nude activities, hopefully there is a less chance of being harrassed by police and people who may object to nudity in public spaces.
As far as I can see any rules, laws or dogmas lead to one size fits all thinking which only makes more problems to solve because we are all different. I think we all need a big healthy dose of "if you are not harming, injuring or restricting the freedom of others who also live by these principles we should mind our own business and in shared spaces negotiate agreements amongst each other". Live and let live appears to have been replaced by fear of others unless they comply which requires rules, laws and dogma (e.g. nanny state government) to appear to be a good idea. It looks to me to be like the "which came first, the chicken or the egg" argument to which I ask what difference does it make? Why look for solutions to problems that don't exist? Better to solve the "why are people having problems coming to agreements" question?
In answer to the last question I feel media and advertising are in the business of inventing imaginary problems and could be the root cause of this type of dilemma. Out of created chaos comes manufactured order (and rules, law, dogma, etc.).
Just my honest opinions.
I recently attended a non-naturist festival based on ecstatic dance and yoga, and I was nude the whole time. It was wonderful although for 99 percent of the time, I was the only nude person there. I asked the organizers ahead of time, of course, and they were gracious enough to realize what “freedom of expression” really means. I’ve tried asking organizers of the regular ecstatic dances in my area if I could come and dance nude, and their answer is an emphatic no. This despite their rhetoric of providing a safe container where people can be themselves, have freedom of expression, and dance how they wish. Nudity should definitely be allowed at any event that claims to provide freedom of expression.
My favorite nude public event is the WNBRs up in Portland, OR. The way they are organized (multiple nude rides throughout the day) one can be nude in a civic environment for an entire day. There's nothing like it. There's no feeling like it.
P.S. If heaven ain't clothing optional, I ain't going! lol! (Can you imagine spending eternity in one of those flowing robes? Me neither!)
Ideally I would like to see a world where if you are ok being shirtless as a man or in a bikini as a woman, you could also be naked. That is a lot of places, including beaches, swimming pools, or even just stunning in the park or going for a walk or run. I wouldn't exoect more people to be naked than may be shirtless in the same situations, but it would mean nudity becomes common and unremarkable.
Getting there is going to be a gradual process, starting with specific areas, and expanding outwards, and regional variations.
It should be allowed anywhere except someone’s private property if they don’t want it. And there should be no lewd conduct if you are that horny go home or to a motel
it is indeed a crazy world. Nudity is dangerous, "open carry" is the norm. I say if you must hide something, hide your guns, not your boobs! And thats all I have to say about that. c/o Forrest Gump
Based on trends in various regions, the following public spaces are most likely to be approved for clothing-optional use by local governments:
Designated sections of remote or less-frequented beaches, especially those already with a history of unofficial naturist use
Isolated areas within large public parks, particularly those that can be clearly marked and separated from main pathways
Reserved swimming areas in lakes or rivers located away from high-traffic zones
Specific hot springs or natural bathing areas, especially those with historical naturist tradition
Private lands leased or sold to naturist organizations that can be rezoned for recreational use
Local governments typically prioritize several factors when considering such designations:
Sufficient physical separation from non-clothing-optional areas
Clear signage and boundary markers to prevent accidental encounters
Minimal visibility from public roadways or family-oriented recreational areas
Areas that don't receive heavy tourism from diverse cultural backgrounds
The likelihood of approval increases when naturist groups demonstrate responsible self-governance, establish clear codes of conduct, and participate actively in maintaining the cleanliness and security of the designated areas.
Urban spaces or areas near schools, playgrounds, or high-traffic commercial districts are extremely unlikely to be approved regardless of advocacy efforts.
People should be allowed to be nude on their property so long as there is minimal visibility from public roadways or family-oriented recreational areas.
No one has mentioned the public nudity standards set in the UK. I believe our best effort would be to mirror those standards. It allows nudity on your own property and anywhere in public where it wouldn't reasonably cause a nuisance.
Some public family parks are situated in areas where nudity offense would not be expected. Just as we want open access to public spaces where nudity would be tolerated, clothists should have public areas safe from exposure to unwelcome nudity. Those areas should be designated as well.
~Safebare
Don Adams beat you to the punch by one minute.
"Areas that don't receive heavy tourism from diverse cultural backgrounds"
This is so awful. Visiting a new country is such a great opportunity to experience different cultures. Trying to shield people from it feels so fake.
"People should be allowed to be nude on their property so long as there is minimal visibility from public roadways or family-oriented recreational areas."
I also dislike this very much. It implies that nude people are wrong and should be hidden away.
Tbh, I dislike several items in this comments because they share this idea that nudists should be hidden.
I agree with you—I don't like it either. I find it difficult for Americans to disassociate their perceptions of sexual and shame-based nudity from non-sexual social nudity. 50% of the US population still finds the female nipple to be offensive. I think if we can make public social nudity more commonplace, we might eventually get to a point where we are more like some European countries.
Absolutely. If more nudist places were available, and visible, it would help out in changing this perception.
I am of the belief that people should be able to be nude at home, of course, designated parks, beaches and other private clubs or resorts that are nude-friendly. It’s so difficult to remove the stigma that nudists contend with even when discussing their lifestyle with textile folks. If someone answers the door naked in their own home , it should not be considered immoral or unlawful as it’s their private property. Clothing optional sections on beaches and parks away from children should be allowed for consenting adults and their families if they wish. So many bigger issues to worry about these days in our crazy world!
Simple nudity is inherently non-sexual and natural. There is zero reason for it to be banned anywhere. And I 100% disagree about children needing to be shielded from that. They are born nudists and have to be forced to wear clothes. There has never been a single child harmed in any way by the sight of another person without clothes. They are only harmed by the reaction of adults around them.
I wish we had a law like in England where nudity is allowed anywhere. Simply being nude in public is not considered lewd conduct.
Spain too although some cities like Barcelona have opted out on the public streets. We were there in the past when it was still OK in Barcelona, interesting, everyone passing was rather non reactive. I went ahead and stripted off on our hotel roof.
I think it should be allowed in places where swimwear is the norm along with wooded camp grounds and hiking trails. Nudity in grocery stores and restaurants, for example; may be a little much. Let’s stick with common sense and not make enemies by pushing an agenda.
You should be ok to be nude on your deck. I am on the second floor and the visibility is limited due to the trees across the street.