Naturists/Nudists are a community of like minded individuals who love the idea of life without having to wear clothes. We should celebrate our life choices, not try to hide or defend them. enjoy the naked bike rides. join pride events - naked pride anyone? step forward and not hide or try to defend what we all know is a great way to live. Show the world who we are and encourage them to join us.
Think small. Continue to advocate for home nudism, and then do it, every day, if at all possible. Develop like-minded friendships. Support the remaining facilities and opportunities. Remember, politics change over time, so, enjoy the freedoms that you have today. Finally, advocate and wait for the eventual changes. Our time will come, but enjoy your life now.
I responded 'build community' simply because the most important thing for me is to be with people with whom I share values. Education is important but I don't believe swimming naked at school is on the cards. Advocacy in defence of freedom I back fully if it confronts the egregious bigots who hide behind aprons of spurious legal or religious respectability. Mass protest by attending WNBR, official public nudist beaches or holidaying at Centre Helio Marin (for example) is good but advocacy in support of the rights of the individual nudist are the most important. Defending individual legal rights by supporting the use of existing laws against defamation, slander and libel is necessary to expose bigots for what they are. The only nudity most people see is hyper-sexualisation - whether that is coyly energetic romantic couplings on Netflix or the less romantic but more explicit couplings in pornography - but the ultimate driver is commercial. I'm all for nudity on screen, stage or wherever but it has to be total natural nudity and it has to be respectful of the persons depicted. Far too often the commercial driver is to use a performer's nakedness to sell a product - inherently that is abusive and we need education and advocacy to expose the complex moral issues of complicity that this raises...
We ought to be supportive of, if not advocates for, all minority rights (nudist/naturist communities comprise a small minority), and individual rights over one’s body in particular (medical rights from a abortion to transition rights come to mind). Threats to one minority or one person in these contexts are threats to all. Wins for one community or individual are wins for all.
I checked "Advocacy and Education". The more we speak up and explain the true meaning of Naturism, more and more people become educated about what it REALLY is. How many times have we seen the snickering TV "news" report concerning any event that was nudist related? People need to be educated.
I think it's a really bad idea to be associated with any advocacy group and be labeled left wing. It will only hurt naturism. Getting naked in nature or at a resort is not political. There are a lot of right leaning nudists. Myself being one.
Dameon, you seem to be confusing the terms "political" and "partisan". There are many advocacy groups that do not align with a political party or platform. Naturism can certainly and rightly be explained in political terms. Just look at the laws in Arkansas where nudism cannot be promoted in any form. That is certainly political.
that is agreat common-sense statement. if naturists align politically, that would automatically write-off and alienate more than half the population, including Naturists.
Unfortunately the legality of being naked in appropriate settings gets used to line up and/or win over voters. Good to have a majority on the side of freedom of choice to be discreetly naked in nature or at a resort.
So do you advocate for naturism? By your theory that lefties hurt naturism, righties must help it, right? But seems like only we lefties are willing to go to bat for it. I testified at the Wisconsin Assembly hearing and there were no conservatives there defending the rights conservatives so loudly beat their chest about. Plenty of bible thumpers quoting scripture at us in the government hearing, I kid you not, but no righties willing to put skin in the game. Honestly, where are you guys?
We have a saying out here in the San Francisco Bay Area that started with our Pro basketball team. " Strength in Numbers". Yes, Advocacy and Education. Yes, Build Community. Yes we must collaborate with other groups. It will be our "Strength in Numbers" as naturists and nudists taking action that we will bring about the change(s) in our nation and the world. I Think back to that 60' Buffalo Springfield song " Hey children what's that sound, everybody look what's going down"
This is one of those questiions that need and 'All of the Above" answers. I do however agree with the top choice. I also think along the way we should keep it A-political. We are trying to garner more interest in Naturism/Nudism, not elect the next president. Another poster who I won't name has been posting anti-Trump articles and I quit their posts. We get enough of that on the media where as I come here to relax and get new ideas.
The members of the nudist campground near me are overwhelmingly Republican. I go there to relax, and I would prefer not to hear about or discuss politics, agree or not, when I'm there. I'm not completely successful at avoidance, however.
Advocacy and education are required to overcome those who are challenged in terested they have little or no knowledge. This is where detracters excell. When provided correct information most people will understand your perspective
You do not need to convert people, just help them understand there is nothing wrong with different choices.
Building community always helps to show it is not just one or a few. There are smaller communities than ours that thrive. Unfortunately too many have poor teachings to make them think nudity only belongs to sexual activity.
In biblical times, and relatively recently. Most people did their activities nude as clothing was (and still can be) expensive. They did not want to ruin their clothing.
While biilding community you shoulf collaberate with other groups. Not only will you learn about others, but they will be more willing to learn and hopefully support ours. The kargwr the crowd of supporters the better. Mets help each other improve.
Apolitical? NO! While not needing to support any party we must dyay ebgafed as they have the ability to remove any (every) place our community enjoys. Should nudists have to sneak around to enjoy what is normal? NO. So we must stay engaged with politics. It should be more than preservinh what we have now, it should be advocating for more
We will never get what is not asked for.
Enjoy life. Dont be ashamed, though it is sometimes hard. Be courteous and extend a wecome hello. Suggest that they should try sometime when they feel comfortable.
In my time of hiking and trails there have been 2 or 3 people with negative attitudes. As with everyone i meet i wish them a good day and hope they enjoy their adventures.
Nudists should not be defending their freedom, they should be seizing it. We are not a minority.
We are the overwhelming majority. Everyone on earth can be a nudist. Everyone has a right to choose to be nude or wear textiles. Media censorship, repressive police action, and nudiphobia need to be overcome .If you can accept the premise that the human body and all body parts are normal and natural, then everyone has a natural right to choose to be nude. Polls show that 70% of Americans and 90% of Germans are OK with a clothing optional society. These are about 30 year old polls, but I doubt there is a significant philosophical change today. (I couldn't easily find any newer polls.)
The easiest technique to create a clothing optional world is nudist presence in public space. I would just form nudist paramilitary organizations to march and hang out in public space and make public space clothing optional. The overwhelming number of people understand and support us, and the rest will learn to get it. It's that easy. I have experience with nudist activism in public spaces. For more details on how to conduct a campaign like this, contact me. george123570@yahoo.com
Live and in real time is the only thing that will work to create a clothing optional world. Nudist colonies, academic articles, podcasts, nudist magazines and this discussion won't reach the general public which is separated from us by media censorship and overpolicing. We have to break down this separation by going directly to the people. It may be mostly visual and non-verbal, but people can and will get it. Honestly, most people are live and let live.
Agreed this is turning nudism or bare body freedom into a political cause, but the very low risk to high success reward ratio is really greater than most any other cause. Nudists just have to do it!
At its best, nudism is revolutionary—a call for societal reform. It’s rooted in the radical tradition.Yet capitalism seeks to commodify it, reducing the movement to just another consumerist lifestyle it can exploit.
This is a tough question, because all of the choices of answers are what we as naturists should be doing. The point I would make about being apolitical is that we do need to be political, but not partisan. Because when we make a cogent case, conservatives are just a likely as liberals to agree with us. However when we make statements that we can't defend with solid information, both liberals and conservatives will not agree with us. If I had to choose one of the answers, I would choose advocacy and education. But I would argue all of the choices should be used.
So do you advocate for naturism? By your theory that lefties hurt naturism, righties must help it, right? But seems like only we lefties are willing to go to bat for it. I testified at the Wisconsin Assembly hearing and there were no conservatives there defending the rights conservatives so loudly beat their chest about. Plenty of bible thumpers quoting scripture at us in the government hearing, I kid you not, but no righties willing to put skin in the game. Honestly, where are you guys?
Naturists/Nudists are a community of like minded individuals who love the idea of life without having to wear clothes. We should celebrate our life choices, not try to hide or defend them. enjoy the naked bike rides. join pride events - naked pride anyone? step forward and not hide or try to defend what we all know is a great way to live. Show the world who we are and encourage them to join us.
Think small. Continue to advocate for home nudism, and then do it, every day, if at all possible. Develop like-minded friendships. Support the remaining facilities and opportunities. Remember, politics change over time, so, enjoy the freedoms that you have today. Finally, advocate and wait for the eventual changes. Our time will come, but enjoy your life now.
I responded 'build community' simply because the most important thing for me is to be with people with whom I share values. Education is important but I don't believe swimming naked at school is on the cards. Advocacy in defence of freedom I back fully if it confronts the egregious bigots who hide behind aprons of spurious legal or religious respectability. Mass protest by attending WNBR, official public nudist beaches or holidaying at Centre Helio Marin (for example) is good but advocacy in support of the rights of the individual nudist are the most important. Defending individual legal rights by supporting the use of existing laws against defamation, slander and libel is necessary to expose bigots for what they are. The only nudity most people see is hyper-sexualisation - whether that is coyly energetic romantic couplings on Netflix or the less romantic but more explicit couplings in pornography - but the ultimate driver is commercial. I'm all for nudity on screen, stage or wherever but it has to be total natural nudity and it has to be respectful of the persons depicted. Far too often the commercial driver is to use a performer's nakedness to sell a product - inherently that is abusive and we need education and advocacy to expose the complex moral issues of complicity that this raises...
We ought to be supportive of, if not advocates for, all minority rights (nudist/naturist communities comprise a small minority), and individual rights over one’s body in particular (medical rights from a abortion to transition rights come to mind). Threats to one minority or one person in these contexts are threats to all. Wins for one community or individual are wins for all.
When right-wing politicians come for your rights as nudists, what will you do? By the way, I am NOT a lefty.
I checked "Advocacy and Education". The more we speak up and explain the true meaning of Naturism, more and more people become educated about what it REALLY is. How many times have we seen the snickering TV "news" report concerning any event that was nudist related? People need to be educated.
I think it's a really bad idea to be associated with any advocacy group and be labeled left wing. It will only hurt naturism. Getting naked in nature or at a resort is not political. There are a lot of right leaning nudists. Myself being one.
Dameon, you seem to be confusing the terms "political" and "partisan". There are many advocacy groups that do not align with a political party or platform. Naturism can certainly and rightly be explained in political terms. Just look at the laws in Arkansas where nudism cannot be promoted in any form. That is certainly political.
that is agreat common-sense statement. if naturists align politically, that would automatically write-off and alienate more than half the population, including Naturists.
Unfortunately the legality of being naked in appropriate settings gets used to line up and/or win over voters. Good to have a majority on the side of freedom of choice to be discreetly naked in nature or at a resort.
So do you advocate for naturism? By your theory that lefties hurt naturism, righties must help it, right? But seems like only we lefties are willing to go to bat for it. I testified at the Wisconsin Assembly hearing and there were no conservatives there defending the rights conservatives so loudly beat their chest about. Plenty of bible thumpers quoting scripture at us in the government hearing, I kid you not, but no righties willing to put skin in the game. Honestly, where are you guys?
Same here and our circle of nudist friends are republicans. There is more of us than you realize.
Nudity, expressed in appropriate places, is uplifting , freeing, and unmasking!
We have a saying out here in the San Francisco Bay Area that started with our Pro basketball team. " Strength in Numbers". Yes, Advocacy and Education. Yes, Build Community. Yes we must collaborate with other groups. It will be our "Strength in Numbers" as naturists and nudists taking action that we will bring about the change(s) in our nation and the world. I Think back to that 60' Buffalo Springfield song " Hey children what's that sound, everybody look what's going down"
This is one of those questiions that need and 'All of the Above" answers. I do however agree with the top choice. I also think along the way we should keep it A-political. We are trying to garner more interest in Naturism/Nudism, not elect the next president. Another poster who I won't name has been posting anti-Trump articles and I quit their posts. We get enough of that on the media where as I come here to relax and get new ideas.
The members of the nudist campground near me are overwhelmingly Republican. I go there to relax, and I would prefer not to hear about or discuss politics, agree or not, when I'm there. I'm not completely successful at avoidance, however.
Advocacy and education are required to overcome those who are challenged in terested they have little or no knowledge. This is where detracters excell. When provided correct information most people will understand your perspective
You do not need to convert people, just help them understand there is nothing wrong with different choices.
Building community always helps to show it is not just one or a few. There are smaller communities than ours that thrive. Unfortunately too many have poor teachings to make them think nudity only belongs to sexual activity.
In biblical times, and relatively recently. Most people did their activities nude as clothing was (and still can be) expensive. They did not want to ruin their clothing.
While biilding community you shoulf collaberate with other groups. Not only will you learn about others, but they will be more willing to learn and hopefully support ours. The kargwr the crowd of supporters the better. Mets help each other improve.
Apolitical? NO! While not needing to support any party we must dyay ebgafed as they have the ability to remove any (every) place our community enjoys. Should nudists have to sneak around to enjoy what is normal? NO. So we must stay engaged with politics. It should be more than preservinh what we have now, it should be advocating for more
We will never get what is not asked for.
Enjoy life. Dont be ashamed, though it is sometimes hard. Be courteous and extend a wecome hello. Suggest that they should try sometime when they feel comfortable.
In my time of hiking and trails there have been 2 or 3 people with negative attitudes. As with everyone i meet i wish them a good day and hope they enjoy their adventures.
Nudists should not be defending their freedom, they should be seizing it. We are not a minority.
We are the overwhelming majority. Everyone on earth can be a nudist. Everyone has a right to choose to be nude or wear textiles. Media censorship, repressive police action, and nudiphobia need to be overcome .If you can accept the premise that the human body and all body parts are normal and natural, then everyone has a natural right to choose to be nude. Polls show that 70% of Americans and 90% of Germans are OK with a clothing optional society. These are about 30 year old polls, but I doubt there is a significant philosophical change today. (I couldn't easily find any newer polls.)
The easiest technique to create a clothing optional world is nudist presence in public space. I would just form nudist paramilitary organizations to march and hang out in public space and make public space clothing optional. The overwhelming number of people understand and support us, and the rest will learn to get it. It's that easy. I have experience with nudist activism in public spaces. For more details on how to conduct a campaign like this, contact me. george123570@yahoo.com
Live and in real time is the only thing that will work to create a clothing optional world. Nudist colonies, academic articles, podcasts, nudist magazines and this discussion won't reach the general public which is separated from us by media censorship and overpolicing. We have to break down this separation by going directly to the people. It may be mostly visual and non-verbal, but people can and will get it. Honestly, most people are live and let live.
Agreed this is turning nudism or bare body freedom into a political cause, but the very low risk to high success reward ratio is really greater than most any other cause. Nudists just have to do it!
At its best, nudism is revolutionary—a call for societal reform. It’s rooted in the radical tradition.Yet capitalism seeks to commodify it, reducing the movement to just another consumerist lifestyle it can exploit.
This is a tough question, because all of the choices of answers are what we as naturists should be doing. The point I would make about being apolitical is that we do need to be political, but not partisan. Because when we make a cogent case, conservatives are just a likely as liberals to agree with us. However when we make statements that we can't defend with solid information, both liberals and conservatives will not agree with us. If I had to choose one of the answers, I would choose advocacy and education. But I would argue all of the choices should be used.
All good. Learning that there is power in collaboration because we are more visible and we learn from each other.
So do you advocate for naturism? By your theory that lefties hurt naturism, righties must help it, right? But seems like only we lefties are willing to go to bat for it. I testified at the Wisconsin Assembly hearing and there were no conservatives there defending the rights conservatives so loudly beat their chest about. Plenty of bible thumpers quoting scripture at us in the government hearing, I kid you not, but no righties willing to put skin in the game. Honestly, where are you guys?