He's most likely never visited Playalinda and has no idea what it's really like there. He'd be surprised to see lots of smiling happy people just enjoying the beach. People who will no longer visit that beach, nor spend money in his county if he gets his way.
I'd like to think, once again, when the economic impact of what this ignorant council person is proposing would do to his county, smarter heads will prevail. As a tourist to this county in Florida, who spend $1000's dollars in his county each year, and multiply that by all of the other folks who visit Playalinda, now will be spending those dollars in other counties, I'd like to think this will fail as other dumb ideas have in the past.
It would be nice to think that, yes, but that would ignore the many instances from recent history in which politicians in the state have done things that make very little economic sense in service of culture-war politics.
This is a nothing burger. Florida isn't going to give tax dollars to nudists in the first place. Let alone nudists who are LGBTQIA+ friendly. Personally, I'm not impressed with B.E.A.C.H.E.S organization. We're trying to get a free beach in Tampa, and I don't see any support from that organization to that effort.
Nudism is a state of dress NOT a sexuality. The quicker the movement realizes this the better it will be. Aligning with LGBTQIA2S+ and taking on all of THEIR baggage will ruin it for everyone.
To ignore that these proposals and in many cases, laws, targeting the LGBTQ+ community have the potential to affect nudists would be ignorant. These culture war politics start with LGBTQ+ communities and won’t stop with the nudist community. Allying with these communities is the only way to build a coalition strong enough to effectively protect naturists’ rights. There simply are not enough nudists in America to do it alone.
Because you don’t see the support of BEACHES doesnt mean it’s not happening. You are being supported however your elected officials are the ones that are stalling even with all the monetary benefit presentations that have been made. You may have to vote out the ones who are not friendly to your cause however that’s a tall order !!
I, for one, am tired of the awful rhetoric that 'nudism isn't a sexuality'. Humanity is a sexuality. Having an understanding of the type of person(s) you are attracted to is just part of being human. People of all sexualities have the capability to be inappropriately sexual and straight people are just as likely, if not more so, to abuse sexual intent and damage the nudist movement. I've personally witnessed it countless times... But for some reason, if you are straight it's not a 'sexuality' and it's perfectly fine for naturism. Mind boggling. The sheer ignorance of labeling LGBTQIA+ as a special danger is not only wrong, it's damaging to all of us.
When there is noise in the basement, you probably have rats. 🤦🏾♂️ Maybe most reading this are not aware or don’t recall efforts to include nude beaches with nudity at strip clubs in an attempt to close the beaches and that attempt had to be vigorously fought to separate the two issues. This may seem like noise to some but never underestimate the zealous efforts of some trying to make a name for themselves while undermining the liberties of others !! We need to sandbag the door ( no pun intended) before the storm comes rushing in !! 🤷🏽♂️
I am mixed on this. First, I don’t see local money going to any naturist organization of event to begin with. Second, I still find it baffling how a county can have legal jurisdiction over the feds at National Canaveral Seashore. Third, while I agree that nudity is not harmful we all need to be honest that some (gay or straight) want to sexualize nudity especially in the public. Most would agree that this hurts our cause as to what it means to be a nudist.
Canaveral is on Federal lands under the jurisdiction of Dept. of Interior. If this passes and you have a Parks Director who supports the County’s position and ask for the County’s support for its enforcement, then Playalinda will no longer be clothing optional !!
To address your second point, state and local laws get enforced on federal lands in one of two ways: 1. if federal jurisdiction is concurrent with state jurisdiction, state and local laws are enforced in their own right. 2. if federal jurisdiction is exclusive, state and local laws are "assimilated" as federal offenses under the umbrella of the "Assimilative Crimes Act", Title 18, United States Code, Section 13. I don't know if Playalinda is concurrent or exclusive, but it doesn't matter. One way or another, state and local laws will be enforced.
It is interesting to me that cities and states have jurisdiction over federal land. As for Playalinda I don’t know how that works. I live in Volusia and Apollo Beach appears to be less of an issue. Plus law enforcement here is less concerned about nude beaches while focusing on actual crime. As for the county council, they too are apparently not so concerned about the same issue as Brevard.
Thanks for your support, Raymond! You can always explore our archives at www.planetnude.co/archive, there’s a search feature there to use. I believe the specific article you’re seeking now can be found here: https://www.planetnude.co/p/children-need-naturism
I live in England, which pretends to be a democracy - really encouraging to see what a true democracy looks like...
Does this politician understand that there are no drag shows at nudist beaches?
He's most likely never visited Playalinda and has no idea what it's really like there. He'd be surprised to see lots of smiling happy people just enjoying the beach. People who will no longer visit that beach, nor spend money in his county if he gets his way.
I'd like to think, once again, when the economic impact of what this ignorant council person is proposing would do to his county, smarter heads will prevail. As a tourist to this county in Florida, who spend $1000's dollars in his county each year, and multiply that by all of the other folks who visit Playalinda, now will be spending those dollars in other counties, I'd like to think this will fail as other dumb ideas have in the past.
It would be nice to think that, yes, but that would ignore the many instances from recent history in which politicians in the state have done things that make very little economic sense in service of culture-war politics.
This is a nothing burger. Florida isn't going to give tax dollars to nudists in the first place. Let alone nudists who are LGBTQIA+ friendly. Personally, I'm not impressed with B.E.A.C.H.E.S organization. We're trying to get a free beach in Tampa, and I don't see any support from that organization to that effort.
Nudism is a state of dress NOT a sexuality. The quicker the movement realizes this the better it will be. Aligning with LGBTQIA2S+ and taking on all of THEIR baggage will ruin it for everyone.
To ignore that these proposals and in many cases, laws, targeting the LGBTQ+ community have the potential to affect nudists would be ignorant. These culture war politics start with LGBTQ+ communities and won’t stop with the nudist community. Allying with these communities is the only way to build a coalition strong enough to effectively protect naturists’ rights. There simply are not enough nudists in America to do it alone.
Bringing in the "Folsom Street Fair" crowd is the LAST thing the nudist community needs.
Because you don’t see the support of BEACHES doesnt mean it’s not happening. You are being supported however your elected officials are the ones that are stalling even with all the monetary benefit presentations that have been made. You may have to vote out the ones who are not friendly to your cause however that’s a tall order !!
I, for one, am tired of the awful rhetoric that 'nudism isn't a sexuality'. Humanity is a sexuality. Having an understanding of the type of person(s) you are attracted to is just part of being human. People of all sexualities have the capability to be inappropriately sexual and straight people are just as likely, if not more so, to abuse sexual intent and damage the nudist movement. I've personally witnessed it countless times... But for some reason, if you are straight it's not a 'sexuality' and it's perfectly fine for naturism. Mind boggling. The sheer ignorance of labeling LGBTQIA+ as a special danger is not only wrong, it's damaging to all of us.
When there is noise in the basement, you probably have rats. 🤦🏾♂️ Maybe most reading this are not aware or don’t recall efforts to include nude beaches with nudity at strip clubs in an attempt to close the beaches and that attempt had to be vigorously fought to separate the two issues. This may seem like noise to some but never underestimate the zealous efforts of some trying to make a name for themselves while undermining the liberties of others !! We need to sandbag the door ( no pun intended) before the storm comes rushing in !! 🤷🏽♂️
Thanks for the heads up.
Tom in Florida
I am mixed on this. First, I don’t see local money going to any naturist organization of event to begin with. Second, I still find it baffling how a county can have legal jurisdiction over the feds at National Canaveral Seashore. Third, while I agree that nudity is not harmful we all need to be honest that some (gay or straight) want to sexualize nudity especially in the public. Most would agree that this hurts our cause as to what it means to be a nudist.
Canaveral is on Federal lands under the jurisdiction of Dept. of Interior. If this passes and you have a Parks Director who supports the County’s position and ask for the County’s support for its enforcement, then Playalinda will no longer be clothing optional !!
I live in Volusia and at least Law Enforcement and the local politicians have weightier issues to focus on instead of being nude on the beach.
To address your second point, state and local laws get enforced on federal lands in one of two ways: 1. if federal jurisdiction is concurrent with state jurisdiction, state and local laws are enforced in their own right. 2. if federal jurisdiction is exclusive, state and local laws are "assimilated" as federal offenses under the umbrella of the "Assimilative Crimes Act", Title 18, United States Code, Section 13. I don't know if Playalinda is concurrent or exclusive, but it doesn't matter. One way or another, state and local laws will be enforced.
It is interesting to me that cities and states have jurisdiction over federal land. As for Playalinda I don’t know how that works. I live in Volusia and Apollo Beach appears to be less of an issue. Plus law enforcement here is less concerned about nude beaches while focusing on actual crime. As for the county council, they too are apparently not so concerned about the same issue as Brevard.