This treats AANR rather like the AMA or the ABA, a private organization with quasi-governmental powers. If you aren't a member of the Bar, you can't practice law. And if you aren't in AANR, you can't have massage at your nude establishment.
I’ve shared the same elsewhere but I will share my thoughts here as well… I feel very conflicted about this news. On the one hand, I am glad to see AANR advocating for its members and protecting its clubs. That is the reason we rally behind an organization and pay membership dues: To protect and advocate for the community. On the other hand, I am uncomfortable with the willingness of nudists to functionally advocate against the rights of adult industries and non-AANR-affiliated nudist venues. This is not progress in my mind, but sends the message that nudists are self-interested isolationists. I dream of a nudist community that seeks to do no harm to individuals, communities, and industries that should be able to coexist in a free society. I dream of a nudist community that sees these sweeping threats and opposes them wholesale rather than seeking carve-outs.
I went and read the amended law and there are a couple things that I found interesting about this. Just to note INAL nor do I play one on the Internet…
First, massage therapists must be clothed even in a nudist environment. The exemption is only regarding employees of the massage establishment.
I don’t see anything in this law that requires draping or covering of the client. So even nudist therapists must be fully dressed.
Given the way it’s worded, I don’t think that this affects groups like B.E.A.C.H.E.S because they are not a massage establishment. This would further be true if the therapist they bring in charges directly for their services, in which case they are operating on their own. Just my opinion…
I use to work in Tallahassee and always read the staff analysis. Your interpretation is correct in that the massage therapist has to be clothed even in a recognized AANR club. No one else has to be clothed but just them. Generally speaking a massage therapist will want a client to be covered because there is fear of losing their license. But this bill does not address that with what I saw. Here is the link to what you stated. https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2024/197/Analyses/h0197z.HRS.PDF
Really, every AANR and even INF resort I went in Europe the kitchen and restaurant staff had to be cloth no matter what, because of food safety.
Last summer I went to Austria, in the public FKK areas/beaches of Vienna (and there is many) if you went into a restaurant as a customer you had to put clothes on, if you were eating outside and in the city's FKK area you could be naked, but inside the restaurant everyone had to have clothes on. Shops located in the FKK area though you could still be naked.
This treats AANR rather like the AMA or the ABA, a private organization with quasi-governmental powers. If you aren't a member of the Bar, you can't practice law. And if you aren't in AANR, you can't have massage at your nude establishment.
Exactly! It is picking and choosing as a result of who has the money and well known lobbyist.
It's only $64 a year it's not a lot of money. If you are under 30 I think it is $40.
I’ve shared the same elsewhere but I will share my thoughts here as well… I feel very conflicted about this news. On the one hand, I am glad to see AANR advocating for its members and protecting its clubs. That is the reason we rally behind an organization and pay membership dues: To protect and advocate for the community. On the other hand, I am uncomfortable with the willingness of nudists to functionally advocate against the rights of adult industries and non-AANR-affiliated nudist venues. This is not progress in my mind, but sends the message that nudists are self-interested isolationists. I dream of a nudist community that seeks to do no harm to individuals, communities, and industries that should be able to coexist in a free society. I dream of a nudist community that sees these sweeping threats and opposes them wholesale rather than seeking carve-outs.
As a better-than-nothing step, AANR should offer some sort of affiliation to TNSF, BEACHES, etc.
I went and read the amended law and there are a couple things that I found interesting about this. Just to note INAL nor do I play one on the Internet…
First, massage therapists must be clothed even in a nudist environment. The exemption is only regarding employees of the massage establishment.
I don’t see anything in this law that requires draping or covering of the client. So even nudist therapists must be fully dressed.
Given the way it’s worded, I don’t think that this affects groups like B.E.A.C.H.E.S because they are not a massage establishment. This would further be true if the therapist they bring in charges directly for their services, in which case they are operating on their own. Just my opinion…
I use to work in Tallahassee and always read the staff analysis. Your interpretation is correct in that the massage therapist has to be clothed even in a recognized AANR club. No one else has to be clothed but just them. Generally speaking a massage therapist will want a client to be covered because there is fear of losing their license. But this bill does not address that with what I saw. Here is the link to what you stated. https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2024/197/Analyses/h0197z.HRS.PDF
"No one else has to be clothed but just them"
Really, every AANR and even INF resort I went in Europe the kitchen and restaurant staff had to be cloth no matter what, because of food safety.
Last summer I went to Austria, in the public FKK areas/beaches of Vienna (and there is many) if you went into a restaurant as a customer you had to put clothes on, if you were eating outside and in the city's FKK area you could be naked, but inside the restaurant everyone had to have clothes on. Shops located in the FKK area though you could still be naked.