I, too, deleted my personal X account and am just on Bluesky now. Facebook has been a problem for a long time for Canadians, especially journalists: we can't post any of our newspaper's articles there because they have banned them. I can still post links to substack articles, though, because it is an American platform. I'm still on facebook to keep in touch with old high school friends and such, but am looking forward to the day when I can pull out of there entirely.
I can’t stand the inherent hypocrisy at Facebook but love the Freedom of X. I just don’t hate Elon Musk, who gas absolutely nothing to say about what I choose to post.. I have heard not so nice things said of Blue Sky. Tumbler was once good, but also hypocritical and dominated by porn. So now you have voted with your feet, in addition to being pushed out of FB. Your only true remaining options are to write books and publish in the legacy press. What’s wrong with that?
No shit. Yes, it costs money to print & distribute. Why is that a problem? The history of successful self-publishing is quite glorious. Did you think that social media platforms were cost free? If your ideas, thoughts, behaviors, writings have any intrinsic or popular value, they will find a market. Yes, it may take awhile. Again, why is that a problem?
The real problem is that good writing needs to be forged in the furnace of hard knocks and the imposition of reality.
There is a pretty strong naturism community on Bluesky. You just have to set your account to be able to view naked photos. There is a least one naturism channel there that I know of, so you can just focus on that if the rest of the site doesn't interest you. There are no ads, either.
Their game, their rules. If they don't want to play with your shaped ball, you have to take it elsewhere. As to their motivation - fowl up is ALWAYS more likely than conspiracy.
These platforms do not provide substantial reasons or allow appeals, and there is no way to converse with their management based on my experience with the former Twitter establishment. People who enjoy nude and/or erotic art for example have slowly become aware that as social media overtook and helped kill off the small magazine genre of publishers who catered to adults who wanted to view those types of works (nude) and then social media began to ban nude and erotic art they suddenly find that they don't have anywhere to easily see the art they once enjoyed. It’s not easy to go back to your old methods because the change to social media has destroyed many of the old avenues for viewers. I suspect that as our new climate of restrictions on genders and rights comes into fruition (Project 2025) you will see more restrictions on nudity (even though previous Supreme Court rulings have said that nudity in general is not obscene). The Supreme Court ruled that nudity is not obscene and is protected by the First Amendment in several cases, including Jenkins v. Georgia (1974) and Erznoznik v. City of Jacksonville (1975). However, as we have seen with abortion. Court rulings based on the extension of civil liberties laws are being rolled back. Civil liberties laws were granting more rights and now we are in an atmosphere restricting rights. The "live and let live" attitude is slowly slipping away. The efforts made by LGBTQIA+ people in the 1970s were during that time of unprecedented granting of more rights and freedom. Now they are among the first to be targeted as we have seen with the onslaught against trans people. Look for more measures against other queer people, I wouldn't be surprised to see nudity restrictions be far behind. Think of recent attacks against the World Naked Bike Rides in Wisconsin and Oregon. Planet Nude getting kicked off Facebook is no surprise. What is a surprise to me is the billionaires jumping on the bandwagon of Trump. But they see an opening for more opportunity for themselves. One solution for nudists is to start their own social media platform but then that requires a lot of money and lately I've not seen any nudist billionaires willing to help. In the words of one late tormented soul, "Why can't we all just get along".
"One solution for nudists is to start their own social media platform but then that requires a lot of money."
There are currently several naturist social media platforms - Evan named three. One he didn't mention that's nice is A Naturist World (ANW). And there's always British Naturism, which is open to anyone (for a reasonable price, like others). Sites that are "free" - like Facebook (and the other shit under that umbrella) rely on crappy advertising - a major reason for the censorship.
Regarding Bluesky, as Jillian and others have mentioned, it's great (at least for now) and has plenty of naturist activity. It's not as vulnerable as other media sites because of what's known as "federation" and the "fediverse". That consists of sites similar to Bluesky, of which Mastodon is the main (and older) example. But in principle, anyone who wants to run a site can be part of the Fediverse and allow moving content from one place to another. Posts from Mastodon can go to Bluesky, for example.
Good news. Thanks for sharing. I'm not a big internet user so I'm not familiear with all those but I did start a Bluesky account. Maybe someone will figure out how to make one of the others more attractive to more people and people can migrate away from the others that are too strict.
I don’t think either of the court cases provide us with much protection. What is clear is that if we are to expand, we must avoid all sexual activity in public. We can never gain public support unless we do this. Facebook be damned.
"Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg has ramped up his sycophantic kowtowing to the new administration—presumably following the Musk model—it’s become easier and easier to imagine leaving that platform under similar conditions."
Why the anti-Trump and anti-Musk tirades? Zuckerberg completely followed the directions of both Obama and Biden. Blocking and shadowing any person, writer, media who had any conservative points of view. He allowed Biden to tell Facebook who and what would be allowed. How do I know that. Zuckerberg just admitted it.
I'm a nudist, live in a nudist resort, love the interesting articles, stories etc that you post and other substacks, etc. Continue with that. I'm totally interested! But the political thrust, completely one-sided is distracting and worse. I'm a nudist, conservative, traditional Roman Catholic. This kind of dribble will cause me to leave your postings.
Kent, I appreciate you taking the time to share your perspective. I welcome different viewpoints on Planet Nude and recognize that not every piece I write will resonate with everyone. That said, I can only write from my own perspective, just as every writer does.
If my perspective offends you, I’ll be the first to suggest that Planet Nude may not be the best fit for you. That’s completely okay‚ there's no shame in engaging with content that aligns with your interests. You’re always welcome to unsubscribe or adjust your preferences to tailor your experience more to your liking. You can manage your subscriptions and choose what you receive here: https://www.planetnude.co/account. You might find that subscribing only to the Weekly Wrap and selecting which articles to engage deeper with works better for you.
Either way, I appreciate your support and engagement, and I wish you the best.
I didn't say that what you said was offensive, but I do strongly disagree with your perspective. But isn't that what free speech is all about? You say what you believe. I say what I believe. I never said for you to self censor, but you do need to be aware of your audience, as I realize I am in the minority. I want you to know that there are conservatives, independents, liberals, etc. We all consider facts as we see, view, and read and evaluate them as to our education, our values, our cultural upbringing, etc.
I dont think your the miniority at all. 70% of the united states voted for this president and his promises. This is one of his promises. I agree with you kent as well as +70% of the united states. President Trumps advisor is doing exactly what he was hired to do. President Trump was voted into office under the promise to cut waist. It seems a little extreme to be calling anyone oligarchy when doing the job hired to do.
I believe you and Kent have a right to speak your mind and even when I don't agree I would fight for your right to have freedom of speech. I would argue that your reasoning in that because of your comment that since 70% of voters selected Trump he has a mandate to do what he is doing. That philosophy falls under the concept of "might is right". If what you say was the how our country's government acted and it has at times acted that way, then women wouldn't have gotten the right to vote in the 1920s and black people may still not be free. I could name many other groups who wouldn't have rights or freedoms in our nation as well. The majority of men in America never voted to give woment the right to vote. It was a small group of men armed by the "rule of law" and court decisions that gave women the right to vote and the same for givng blacks there freedom. An electorate of only white men never voted to give blacks freedom. We are a republic, designed to follow the rule of law. Unfortunately Donald Trump is following a playbook used by fascist throughout history. They find issues to scare voters to put them in power and then ignore the rule of law and begin to roll back freedoms for others. I fear nudity will come under fire as a more fascist, not conservative, government takes shape. I'm a fiscal conservative myself and have voted for many Republicans but honestly you cannot say that Trump follows the conservative principles of the former Republican Party. I was even a Wyoming Republican at one time where the motto was, "live and let live". That seems to have disappeared. I hope you keep commenting because good discussions help us all understand each other and sometimes each can learn to make changes. Thank you for your comments. Jeff
I'm really proud of what has been built here on Substack. I think it is the right platform to be part of, even though I know there are also some problematic spots here.
I used to belong to some naturist groups on Facebook but really backed away in the recent years. I found the community there has become pretty toxic. ie Men lurking in hopes that a woman would share a picture. So I see this breakup as a good thing. It's not just about what Meta is as an organization but also what the user base is like. And it's 100% gross.
Very regrettable....but not surprising....everything you note about Facebook's superficial "standards" and suppression of dialogue not conforming to their prudish sense of what Americans need to see or hear is right on and is part of a disturbing trend. Naturists have cause to be concerned. When nudity becomes targeted like LGBTQ or other different forms of life choices.....we could be next in the crosshairs....
Facebook and all meta platforms are just state run propaganda outlets. Drop them and move on. Zuckerberg can stand to lose a few billion dollars. He is kissing the Nazi and the orange turds ass
I left Twitter the day Musk took possession of it. I deleted my Facebook account shortly after Zuckerberg’s decision to stop curbing hate speech there. Why would I want to contribute to platforms that support ideologies that go against my core values?
Facebook is a cesspool anyway, so I say good riddance! I wonder if the adds showing penise's ejaculating and women's legs spread have also been deleted. Just my thought about their system. I have a Facebook account, but hardly ever check it. I'll check it less now.
Did they give a reason why?
Didn’t expect something different from Meta.
I, too, deleted my personal X account and am just on Bluesky now. Facebook has been a problem for a long time for Canadians, especially journalists: we can't post any of our newspaper's articles there because they have banned them. I can still post links to substack articles, though, because it is an American platform. I'm still on facebook to keep in touch with old high school friends and such, but am looking forward to the day when I can pull out of there entirely.
The Canada’s Online News Act made Meta delete news on Facebook.
I know. Meta was too cheap to pay for our content and help support journalists.
I just left all Facebook groups of which I was a member. I'm uninstalling the app. Then deleting my account. Meta is DEAD to me.
I can’t stand the inherent hypocrisy at Facebook but love the Freedom of X. I just don’t hate Elon Musk, who gas absolutely nothing to say about what I choose to post.. I have heard not so nice things said of Blue Sky. Tumbler was once good, but also hypocritical and dominated by porn. So now you have voted with your feet, in addition to being pushed out of FB. Your only true remaining options are to write books and publish in the legacy press. What’s wrong with that?
Physical printing costs $$$ to distribute.
No shit. Yes, it costs money to print & distribute. Why is that a problem? The history of successful self-publishing is quite glorious. Did you think that social media platforms were cost free? If your ideas, thoughts, behaviors, writings have any intrinsic or popular value, they will find a market. Yes, it may take awhile. Again, why is that a problem?
The real problem is that good writing needs to be forged in the furnace of hard knocks and the imposition of reality.
There is a pretty strong naturism community on Bluesky. You just have to set your account to be able to view naked photos. There is a least one naturism channel there that I know of, so you can just focus on that if the rest of the site doesn't interest you. There are no ads, either.
The "Musk hate" is comical at this point. I'm not going to get political, but just know the Musk haters are beclowning themselves.
Their game, their rules. If they don't want to play with your shaped ball, you have to take it elsewhere. As to their motivation - fowl up is ALWAYS more likely than conspiracy.
Yes. Facebook has always deleted accounts from nudists. Zuck said they would end censorship, but he doesn't mean he will allow actual humans.
These platforms do not provide substantial reasons or allow appeals, and there is no way to converse with their management based on my experience with the former Twitter establishment. People who enjoy nude and/or erotic art for example have slowly become aware that as social media overtook and helped kill off the small magazine genre of publishers who catered to adults who wanted to view those types of works (nude) and then social media began to ban nude and erotic art they suddenly find that they don't have anywhere to easily see the art they once enjoyed. It’s not easy to go back to your old methods because the change to social media has destroyed many of the old avenues for viewers. I suspect that as our new climate of restrictions on genders and rights comes into fruition (Project 2025) you will see more restrictions on nudity (even though previous Supreme Court rulings have said that nudity in general is not obscene). The Supreme Court ruled that nudity is not obscene and is protected by the First Amendment in several cases, including Jenkins v. Georgia (1974) and Erznoznik v. City of Jacksonville (1975). However, as we have seen with abortion. Court rulings based on the extension of civil liberties laws are being rolled back. Civil liberties laws were granting more rights and now we are in an atmosphere restricting rights. The "live and let live" attitude is slowly slipping away. The efforts made by LGBTQIA+ people in the 1970s were during that time of unprecedented granting of more rights and freedom. Now they are among the first to be targeted as we have seen with the onslaught against trans people. Look for more measures against other queer people, I wouldn't be surprised to see nudity restrictions be far behind. Think of recent attacks against the World Naked Bike Rides in Wisconsin and Oregon. Planet Nude getting kicked off Facebook is no surprise. What is a surprise to me is the billionaires jumping on the bandwagon of Trump. But they see an opening for more opportunity for themselves. One solution for nudists is to start their own social media platform but then that requires a lot of money and lately I've not seen any nudist billionaires willing to help. In the words of one late tormented soul, "Why can't we all just get along".
"One solution for nudists is to start their own social media platform but then that requires a lot of money."
There are currently several naturist social media platforms - Evan named three. One he didn't mention that's nice is A Naturist World (ANW). And there's always British Naturism, which is open to anyone (for a reasonable price, like others). Sites that are "free" - like Facebook (and the other shit under that umbrella) rely on crappy advertising - a major reason for the censorship.
Regarding Bluesky, as Jillian and others have mentioned, it's great (at least for now) and has plenty of naturist activity. It's not as vulnerable as other media sites because of what's known as "federation" and the "fediverse". That consists of sites similar to Bluesky, of which Mastodon is the main (and older) example. But in principle, anyone who wants to run a site can be part of the Fediverse and allow moving content from one place to another. Posts from Mastodon can go to Bluesky, for example.
Good news. Thanks for sharing. I'm not a big internet user so I'm not familiear with all those but I did start a Bluesky account. Maybe someone will figure out how to make one of the others more attractive to more people and people can migrate away from the others that are too strict.
I don’t think either of the court cases provide us with much protection. What is clear is that if we are to expand, we must avoid all sexual activity in public. We can never gain public support unless we do this. Facebook be damned.
"Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg has ramped up his sycophantic kowtowing to the new administration—presumably following the Musk model—it’s become easier and easier to imagine leaving that platform under similar conditions."
Why the anti-Trump and anti-Musk tirades? Zuckerberg completely followed the directions of both Obama and Biden. Blocking and shadowing any person, writer, media who had any conservative points of view. He allowed Biden to tell Facebook who and what would be allowed. How do I know that. Zuckerberg just admitted it.
I'm a nudist, live in a nudist resort, love the interesting articles, stories etc that you post and other substacks, etc. Continue with that. I'm totally interested! But the political thrust, completely one-sided is distracting and worse. I'm a nudist, conservative, traditional Roman Catholic. This kind of dribble will cause me to leave your postings.
So in other words, you want him to censor his posts to meet your expectations of propriety. How is that any different from what Facebook is doing?
Sounds like you are the censor. I have a right to respond (which you don’t seem to think is my right). You want to prevent me from my thoughts? Wow!
Kent, I appreciate you taking the time to share your perspective. I welcome different viewpoints on Planet Nude and recognize that not every piece I write will resonate with everyone. That said, I can only write from my own perspective, just as every writer does.
If my perspective offends you, I’ll be the first to suggest that Planet Nude may not be the best fit for you. That’s completely okay‚ there's no shame in engaging with content that aligns with your interests. You’re always welcome to unsubscribe or adjust your preferences to tailor your experience more to your liking. You can manage your subscriptions and choose what you receive here: https://www.planetnude.co/account. You might find that subscribing only to the Weekly Wrap and selecting which articles to engage deeper with works better for you.
Either way, I appreciate your support and engagement, and I wish you the best.
I didn't say that what you said was offensive, but I do strongly disagree with your perspective. But isn't that what free speech is all about? You say what you believe. I say what I believe. I never said for you to self censor, but you do need to be aware of your audience, as I realize I am in the minority. I want you to know that there are conservatives, independents, liberals, etc. We all consider facts as we see, view, and read and evaluate them as to our education, our values, our cultural upbringing, etc.
I dont think your the miniority at all. 70% of the united states voted for this president and his promises. This is one of his promises. I agree with you kent as well as +70% of the united states. President Trumps advisor is doing exactly what he was hired to do. President Trump was voted into office under the promise to cut waist. It seems a little extreme to be calling anyone oligarchy when doing the job hired to do.
Austin,
I believe you and Kent have a right to speak your mind and even when I don't agree I would fight for your right to have freedom of speech. I would argue that your reasoning in that because of your comment that since 70% of voters selected Trump he has a mandate to do what he is doing. That philosophy falls under the concept of "might is right". If what you say was the how our country's government acted and it has at times acted that way, then women wouldn't have gotten the right to vote in the 1920s and black people may still not be free. I could name many other groups who wouldn't have rights or freedoms in our nation as well. The majority of men in America never voted to give woment the right to vote. It was a small group of men armed by the "rule of law" and court decisions that gave women the right to vote and the same for givng blacks there freedom. An electorate of only white men never voted to give blacks freedom. We are a republic, designed to follow the rule of law. Unfortunately Donald Trump is following a playbook used by fascist throughout history. They find issues to scare voters to put them in power and then ignore the rule of law and begin to roll back freedoms for others. I fear nudity will come under fire as a more fascist, not conservative, government takes shape. I'm a fiscal conservative myself and have voted for many Republicans but honestly you cannot say that Trump follows the conservative principles of the former Republican Party. I was even a Wyoming Republican at one time where the motto was, "live and let live". That seems to have disappeared. I hope you keep commenting because good discussions help us all understand each other and sometimes each can learn to make changes. Thank you for your comments. Jeff
I'm really proud of what has been built here on Substack. I think it is the right platform to be part of, even though I know there are also some problematic spots here.
I used to belong to some naturist groups on Facebook but really backed away in the recent years. I found the community there has become pretty toxic. ie Men lurking in hopes that a woman would share a picture. So I see this breakup as a good thing. It's not just about what Meta is as an organization but also what the user base is like. And it's 100% gross.
Very regrettable....but not surprising....everything you note about Facebook's superficial "standards" and suppression of dialogue not conforming to their prudish sense of what Americans need to see or hear is right on and is part of a disturbing trend. Naturists have cause to be concerned. When nudity becomes targeted like LGBTQ or other different forms of life choices.....we could be next in the crosshairs....
The best thing we as well thinking people will leave Facebook and X, to solve the right world.
Facebook and all meta platforms are just state run propaganda outlets. Drop them and move on. Zuckerberg can stand to lose a few billion dollars. He is kissing the Nazi and the orange turds ass
I left Twitter the day Musk took possession of it. I deleted my Facebook account shortly after Zuckerberg’s decision to stop curbing hate speech there. Why would I want to contribute to platforms that support ideologies that go against my core values?
Facebook is a cesspool anyway, so I say good riddance! I wonder if the adds showing penise's ejaculating and women's legs spread have also been deleted. Just my thought about their system. I have a Facebook account, but hardly ever check it. I'll check it less now.