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and I want to add, the best quote on naturism, written and should have a bumper stick and plastered all over everything is this:

"Naturism has spent a century convincing the public we're real. Why are we suddenly advertising ourselves with fake people?"

I do not have time to do anything fancy, but I am going to give that quote to everyone I meet at the AANR Convention next week.

Going to put it on the back of my AANR Trustee business cards and with Evan's permission, add

"Just say no to AI marketing photos and yes to real naturist photos." to it Open for a better sentence

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Okay, this has bothered me to0, just check the feeds on your substack account, well, I get AI porn with sometimes some stories. Why even post this crap if it is not at least as a marketing aide for a story?

Truth be told, I have done book covers that are AI, my current novel series (I have done two books) one is a model and one is not, it is AI (the one with Jupiter in background), and I have done cover art on Nudetopian Nightmares that is AI and Burnett County Revisted. I have also done my own cad drawing etc, but AI is easier and quicker.....I have hired a cover artist to do 4 of my covers, but that was not cheap....I got a cool painting, I guess.....AI almost free!!!

On brochures......models are expensive, photo shoots are uncomfortable at a nudist club and u need waivers, and a photographer and sometimes a board of directors meeting, and then everyone has to look at every photos because maybe too much nipple or to much penis or God forbid, she looks under 18 (even if she is not)....I just went to an AANR Midwest convention where I can almost guarantee no photos were taken by anybody.....so 1) no marketing for next year, 2) nothing to archive for history and so then 3) if there is no record of it, did it even ever exist in 20 years say?

Everyone is afraid, and rightly so, most nudist sare afraid of being naked or seen naked, look on Ebay, someone is selling "Nudes a Poppin" Ponderosa (IN) 1979 photos for $30 a piece taken by some random guy in the audience whose photos ended up at some photo reseller.....One is a good history piece of a woman doing nude sword swallowing as her talent I guess, but I am not paying $30 for a 4x4 fading in color.....

But at our club very few photos between 2000 and now exist, I did some shoots for website but those are now dated and again, I should have paid models $500 to come and be shot because no one wanted to be in them that were members

Many of our members still have never told their adult children who may have children that they are members......and in Photo Field Trip in 1964 #6, many of our members got outed and some fired and one young girl eventually killed herself over the taunting in High school. Having photos taken are risky...so why would they agree to photos

AI has at least allowed nude people to be pictured at nude resorts/ clubs.

I would love to put together a marketing shoot for many of these clubs, even something like a taking retro photos using old scenes, old cars, old campers, with roles reversed from standard 1960s nudist photos (man delivering drinks wearing apron etc) and use it as marketing even put them in the Nude Nite art exhibit, make it in a calendar, use then for club ads and websites, but how many clubs could you even be able to do that at and who would ever want to be in them, and okay, we hire models...who would even believe you?....I could probably do it at a few places in Florida but you know anything has a risk, and ???? Would the president of Carolina Foothills even answer my email? I cannot get a woman who has 1981 photos of Tree House Fun Ranch in California with photos archived at Claremont College to agree to use her photos for anything at all, not even with payment, not that I needed them that badly. Michael Cooney has retired, what photographer has replaced him? I take bird and butterfly photos professionally, I can work on my skills, I guess.....

So here I am saying no one is ever going to want to be in a picture so why not AI? And I can also say, AI does is a horrible thing to use in promoting nudism/naturism, so who would want to use an AI photo on a brochure? ...someone tell me something positive. I prefer watercolor AI images not realistic setting btw

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