Interesting. PROBABLY, there MAY have been others that were not so publicized, but I'm only guessing. It was interesting reading, and I like your sense of humor!
I do think that considering nudism did not really take hold in USA until late 1929, timing about correct, and two of the original leaders Isley Boone and Henry S. Huntington (first president of what became the AANR ) (INF-INC ASA -AANR) were both ordained men AND Boone was Publisher of "The Nudist," one of them would have written something, so it could have been on the QT in that era, nothing seemed to be on the QT then, shoot, a boat load of nudists have engine trouble and end up in Tampa, 400 newspapers pick it up.....
Olaf, Thank you for the enjoyable read. William Calhoun Walker reported skinny-dipping with friends along the Hudson River in 1905. He married shortly thereafter and honeymooned in 1906 at Bernard Macfadden's Physical Culture City in NJ, which was clothing optional. The pair were active nudists setting up camps, then clubs, and eventually starting The Common Sense Club in 1919. They sent their newsletter, Common Sense, and a directory out to their over 1,000 members who lived in every state (48 at the time) and even had some international members. I have often wondered if they had a nude wedding as they were very committed pioneers in American social nakedness.
I actually wrote a note to myself wondering how exactly how clothing optional Physical Culture City was. He was big on sun baths, McFadden was rather cryptic on views on mixed sex nudity, and I was reading when the "nudists" sort of emerged in 1930, he was not positive. Maybe it was due to business competition. Rock Lodge had a physical culture camp run by Dr Bf Rocker, the wrestler, in the 1920s and was hard to figure out if it was clothing optional, maybe it was a Gay man's spa, .....lot of reading between the lines at those "pre-nudist" nude spots.......
Have you read Harry Kemp's two quasi-autobiographies? He talks about his experiences at Physical Culture City in 1905 and then later when he hid out there with Meta Sinclair (Upton's wife) after their meeting in Battlecreek at Macfadden's sanitarium and health spa. Did you see my article on Macfadden in "N" 36.1 from 2016? "Bernard Macfadden, Early American Champion of Nudists, or Naturists, or Not?" I see Macfadden as an early Huge Hefner - they both liked promoting their primary topic (fitness / man about town) with the use of scantly clad women and good fiction. Macfadden wanted PCC to become his factory town as he had hoped to move his publishing company to NJ and even had a rail line go on site to deliver paper and ink as well as to ship books and magazines. What he did not find were enough people to life the Physical Culture lifestyle who also wanted to do the physical work of the publishing business. Bottom line - I agree the clothing optional aspects of PCC were limited, but had it grown ... who knows.
Yea, one of them and yours. After, I had read it, and I am /was/ and probably always will be conflicted on him, Some guy thought he should be in the "Nudist Hall of Fame" and I read his essay on him at the ANRL. I kind of agree. I am off friday to do some research on the Solarium Society in St Pete Friday, yet another pre-"nudist" group that was even more nude than the PCC was and like Parmelee the guy behind that have been unfairly ignored as to their importance, think my next submission here will be on The Temple to the Sun in St Pete, I wrote about it in my Pasco book but think I will expand, we'll see what they have. I also read some essays from one of McF's daughters from his poor wife from England, seems they had rather limited clothing, but she does not say that much on the subject....just being his child was not one many of us would have wished on ourselves. Then I got out of that rabbit hole, as I had had enough. Never sure what to think of the PCC or some of the other early groups that were nude and rather short lived because of their "free-love" tendencies that seemed to naturally self-destruct.
When I wrote my article on Macfadden it was a much longer piece and Mark Storey edited way down. I sent the full text to ANRL and for a long time the blue 3 ring binder listed it as having been written by Macfadden not me. Paul was going to get that corrected and get it scanned. I also did an article on Kemp for "N" 37.4 in 2018. Planet Nude has also put out material on Kemp.
Some of Macfadden's secretaries commented in the 1930s and later that for him it was always "sex-oclock". This was quite the reversal from his first writings in the 1890s about exercising and full-grain foods as a way to avoid "self-abuse." Have you read about Upton Sinclair's ideas and efforts on open marriages? That came back to bite him when his wife ran off with Kemp.
I too had seen the nomination of Macfadden to the "Nudist Hall of Fame" at ANRL. I have heard he was not considered because he was not a member of the ASA. The fact that he promoted nude exercise before the ASA existed did not seem to sway interest.
Well many members of Rock Lodge and Sky Farm to just name a few were not ASA members because they disagreed with the ASA, INC etc until relatively late. Circle H for one did not join ASA until the AHA wound up in 1978 (I think) as another example. So, people like black American nudist pioneers in the Sixties, Judge Matt Bollock and Ms Gueye, she was NOT an ASA member because they never let her in Sunshine Park!! The Rosa Parks of nudism. This is like saying Satchel Paige and Josh Gipson aren't allowed in the MLB Baseball Hall of Fame because Paige only played a few years at the end of his career (arguably the best pitcher in professional baseball ever) and Gipson who never played in the MLB (one of top 10 hitters of all time anywhere) don't belong there. Ludicrous!! Herman Shoshinski is not in Nudist hall of fame I suppose for same reason, yet he started Lake Como, Rock Lodge (served in WWII) Paradise Valley plus his other writings, plus first nudist parks in Hillsborough and with Huntington, Manatee County Florida, but being a Parmelee disciple probably aided in being excluded. Yet Fred Biscoff with all of his womanizing, financial shenanigans In Dominican Republic (and Ft Lauderdale) costing nudists a lot of money, even murder, plus other sexual inuendoes of proclivity I will not repeat, but give one morsel of proof and one could write pages, yet he is the "Hall of Fame" member and many more quite imperfect people put on a pedestal for quesytionable reasons.
I lived and worked at Circle H in 1977 & 78. Lucille Hansen had been awarded the ESA Woman of the Year award. She was very proud that she was half First Nation (I believe it was Mohawk) and half French Canadian. She was also very proud to have Circle H be an AHA member, as the ASA was being so fickled about who could join. Circle H was the closest club to NYC and many of her members were single guys from the theater who were gay. The Ranch also had other notable theater and show business participants who did not want to formally join, but greatly appreciated the freedom and anonymity that came from being at such a club.
You are correct that not naming names is a bit like Native American Jim Thorpe not being a key figure for the now San Francisco Giants when he played with them when they were in Brooklyn, or the little mention he gets as being the First President of the NFL. Your examples are truly ludicrous and now we have removed even the "Enola Gay" from history too.
I have heard that the "Hall of Fame" is full of folks who were in politically influential positions, who took priority over the true worker bees who should get such recognition. I was involved with some international Arctic awards and we so glad when we were able to wrestle the recognitions away from just the national officers and give them to health professionals and researchers who had for decades been behind the scenes.
Awards, like the Oscars, are always fraught with political maneuvering and I anticipate we will see the process play out in Rome over the next few weeks as well.
Part of what you have written is exactly why we need to do quality research and present what is known. Nudism and Naturism cannot go along skating as if all has been a squeaky clean process, but it has been generally a positive health endeavor with many folks with foibles.
I enjoyed this interesting and very entertaining read. It's easy to understand why people would want Mr. Danielson, with his sharp wit, officiating at their weddings.
I often imagined getting married in the nude, but that didn't happen. I was married at San Francisco City Hall; I've protested naked on the building's front steps a few times, but have never been nude inside it.
I sincerely believe in the value of including nudity in life's major events... and death's events, as well. I very recently updated my will and related documents, clearly specifying that I'd prefer to die completely naked if at all feasible, and that any memorial service or celebration of life must be clothing optional. The attorney gave me a funny look, but that's been notarized and is now official.
yea, although I sort of prefer a viking funeral pyre, the closest is cremation, and the thoughtj of being mixed with burnt rayon and polyester even wool does not sit well, so I should add that for the kids instructions....thx. The last nude wedding I did, the bride walked down the aisle to "Love shack" by the B52s.......my outfit for this one finally got finished, I sort of look like a straight Elton John meets Owen Wilson.......I may get a few funny looks....lol
I was also going to note, I have done a few funerals, NONE of them nude. I would be okay with that. My Grandmother Danielson (who we took to a nude beach, since she liked to watch the naked people walk past and always badgering my wife to get her clothes off) died, I was giving her rather long eulogy, and I was picturing being naked there to keep myself from crying in the middle of all of the crazy anecdotes I had about her, it helped. Thinking she would be okay with that. grandma was not a nudist, but she said, had she ended up at a place like Orient Beach when she was younger, she would have taken to it like a "black lab to water."
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Rent a tux and forget it after.
Yep. Rent, use, return. Done
Interesting. PROBABLY, there MAY have been others that were not so publicized, but I'm only guessing. It was interesting reading, and I like your sense of humor!
I do think that considering nudism did not really take hold in USA until late 1929, timing about correct, and two of the original leaders Isley Boone and Henry S. Huntington (first president of what became the AANR ) (INF-INC ASA -AANR) were both ordained men AND Boone was Publisher of "The Nudist," one of them would have written something, so it could have been on the QT in that era, nothing seemed to be on the QT then, shoot, a boat load of nudists have engine trouble and end up in Tampa, 400 newspapers pick it up.....
Olaf, Thank you for the enjoyable read. William Calhoun Walker reported skinny-dipping with friends along the Hudson River in 1905. He married shortly thereafter and honeymooned in 1906 at Bernard Macfadden's Physical Culture City in NJ, which was clothing optional. The pair were active nudists setting up camps, then clubs, and eventually starting The Common Sense Club in 1919. They sent their newsletter, Common Sense, and a directory out to their over 1,000 members who lived in every state (48 at the time) and even had some international members. I have often wondered if they had a nude wedding as they were very committed pioneers in American social nakedness.
I actually wrote a note to myself wondering how exactly how clothing optional Physical Culture City was. He was big on sun baths, McFadden was rather cryptic on views on mixed sex nudity, and I was reading when the "nudists" sort of emerged in 1930, he was not positive. Maybe it was due to business competition. Rock Lodge had a physical culture camp run by Dr Bf Rocker, the wrestler, in the 1920s and was hard to figure out if it was clothing optional, maybe it was a Gay man's spa, .....lot of reading between the lines at those "pre-nudist" nude spots.......
Have you read Harry Kemp's two quasi-autobiographies? He talks about his experiences at Physical Culture City in 1905 and then later when he hid out there with Meta Sinclair (Upton's wife) after their meeting in Battlecreek at Macfadden's sanitarium and health spa. Did you see my article on Macfadden in "N" 36.1 from 2016? "Bernard Macfadden, Early American Champion of Nudists, or Naturists, or Not?" I see Macfadden as an early Huge Hefner - they both liked promoting their primary topic (fitness / man about town) with the use of scantly clad women and good fiction. Macfadden wanted PCC to become his factory town as he had hoped to move his publishing company to NJ and even had a rail line go on site to deliver paper and ink as well as to ship books and magazines. What he did not find were enough people to life the Physical Culture lifestyle who also wanted to do the physical work of the publishing business. Bottom line - I agree the clothing optional aspects of PCC were limited, but had it grown ... who knows.
Yea, one of them and yours. After, I had read it, and I am /was/ and probably always will be conflicted on him, Some guy thought he should be in the "Nudist Hall of Fame" and I read his essay on him at the ANRL. I kind of agree. I am off friday to do some research on the Solarium Society in St Pete Friday, yet another pre-"nudist" group that was even more nude than the PCC was and like Parmelee the guy behind that have been unfairly ignored as to their importance, think my next submission here will be on The Temple to the Sun in St Pete, I wrote about it in my Pasco book but think I will expand, we'll see what they have. I also read some essays from one of McF's daughters from his poor wife from England, seems they had rather limited clothing, but she does not say that much on the subject....just being his child was not one many of us would have wished on ourselves. Then I got out of that rabbit hole, as I had had enough. Never sure what to think of the PCC or some of the other early groups that were nude and rather short lived because of their "free-love" tendencies that seemed to naturally self-destruct.
When I wrote my article on Macfadden it was a much longer piece and Mark Storey edited way down. I sent the full text to ANRL and for a long time the blue 3 ring binder listed it as having been written by Macfadden not me. Paul was going to get that corrected and get it scanned. I also did an article on Kemp for "N" 37.4 in 2018. Planet Nude has also put out material on Kemp.
Some of Macfadden's secretaries commented in the 1930s and later that for him it was always "sex-oclock". This was quite the reversal from his first writings in the 1890s about exercising and full-grain foods as a way to avoid "self-abuse." Have you read about Upton Sinclair's ideas and efforts on open marriages? That came back to bite him when his wife ran off with Kemp.
I too had seen the nomination of Macfadden to the "Nudist Hall of Fame" at ANRL. I have heard he was not considered because he was not a member of the ASA. The fact that he promoted nude exercise before the ASA existed did not seem to sway interest.
Well many members of Rock Lodge and Sky Farm to just name a few were not ASA members because they disagreed with the ASA, INC etc until relatively late. Circle H for one did not join ASA until the AHA wound up in 1978 (I think) as another example. So, people like black American nudist pioneers in the Sixties, Judge Matt Bollock and Ms Gueye, she was NOT an ASA member because they never let her in Sunshine Park!! The Rosa Parks of nudism. This is like saying Satchel Paige and Josh Gipson aren't allowed in the MLB Baseball Hall of Fame because Paige only played a few years at the end of his career (arguably the best pitcher in professional baseball ever) and Gipson who never played in the MLB (one of top 10 hitters of all time anywhere) don't belong there. Ludicrous!! Herman Shoshinski is not in Nudist hall of fame I suppose for same reason, yet he started Lake Como, Rock Lodge (served in WWII) Paradise Valley plus his other writings, plus first nudist parks in Hillsborough and with Huntington, Manatee County Florida, but being a Parmelee disciple probably aided in being excluded. Yet Fred Biscoff with all of his womanizing, financial shenanigans In Dominican Republic (and Ft Lauderdale) costing nudists a lot of money, even murder, plus other sexual inuendoes of proclivity I will not repeat, but give one morsel of proof and one could write pages, yet he is the "Hall of Fame" member and many more quite imperfect people put on a pedestal for quesytionable reasons.
Olf,
I lived and worked at Circle H in 1977 & 78. Lucille Hansen had been awarded the ESA Woman of the Year award. She was very proud that she was half First Nation (I believe it was Mohawk) and half French Canadian. She was also very proud to have Circle H be an AHA member, as the ASA was being so fickled about who could join. Circle H was the closest club to NYC and many of her members were single guys from the theater who were gay. The Ranch also had other notable theater and show business participants who did not want to formally join, but greatly appreciated the freedom and anonymity that came from being at such a club.
You are correct that not naming names is a bit like Native American Jim Thorpe not being a key figure for the now San Francisco Giants when he played with them when they were in Brooklyn, or the little mention he gets as being the First President of the NFL. Your examples are truly ludicrous and now we have removed even the "Enola Gay" from history too.
I have heard that the "Hall of Fame" is full of folks who were in politically influential positions, who took priority over the true worker bees who should get such recognition. I was involved with some international Arctic awards and we so glad when we were able to wrestle the recognitions away from just the national officers and give them to health professionals and researchers who had for decades been behind the scenes.
Awards, like the Oscars, are always fraught with political maneuvering and I anticipate we will see the process play out in Rome over the next few weeks as well.
Part of what you have written is exactly why we need to do quality research and present what is known. Nudism and Naturism cannot go along skating as if all has been a squeaky clean process, but it has been generally a positive health endeavor with many folks with foibles.
I enjoyed this interesting and very entertaining read. It's easy to understand why people would want Mr. Danielson, with his sharp wit, officiating at their weddings.
I often imagined getting married in the nude, but that didn't happen. I was married at San Francisco City Hall; I've protested naked on the building's front steps a few times, but have never been nude inside it.
I sincerely believe in the value of including nudity in life's major events... and death's events, as well. I very recently updated my will and related documents, clearly specifying that I'd prefer to die completely naked if at all feasible, and that any memorial service or celebration of life must be clothing optional. The attorney gave me a funny look, but that's been notarized and is now official.
yea, although I sort of prefer a viking funeral pyre, the closest is cremation, and the thoughtj of being mixed with burnt rayon and polyester even wool does not sit well, so I should add that for the kids instructions....thx. The last nude wedding I did, the bride walked down the aisle to "Love shack" by the B52s.......my outfit for this one finally got finished, I sort of look like a straight Elton John meets Owen Wilson.......I may get a few funny looks....lol
I was also going to note, I have done a few funerals, NONE of them nude. I would be okay with that. My Grandmother Danielson (who we took to a nude beach, since she liked to watch the naked people walk past and always badgering my wife to get her clothes off) died, I was giving her rather long eulogy, and I was picturing being naked there to keep myself from crying in the middle of all of the crazy anecdotes I had about her, it helped. Thinking she would be okay with that. grandma was not a nudist, but she said, had she ended up at a place like Orient Beach when she was younger, she would have taken to it like a "black lab to water."